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The Shocking Geoff Beckett Interview

Thu, Nov 20, 2008

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The story of Shocker Toys is a complicated one. It begins with Geoff Beckett – a guy with an idea for a toy, and it progresses through almost six years of trials, controversy, licensing messes, and almost more than anything else, a boisterous personality.

Before any other action figure company had really started connecting with the adult collectors as they do now, Beckett began detailing every phase of the creation of his toys, from the seed of an idea, through sections in-progress sculpts, all the way through to final production. It’s been a very long process, with what promises to be their truly breakthrough toy line, ‘Indie Spotlight’, being stuck in production hell for over two years. During this long gestation period, shelf dates have arrived and passed many times, but the perseverance of Beckett… perseveres.

He’ll be the first person to leap into a prolonged internet fist fight to defend his almost-creations – an unusual role for a company CEO to play, and one that’s made him fairly controversial in the mainstream action figure world. At the core of it all still exists the same ideals that I think reside in most of us – the desire to be toymakers.

Geoff dropped me a line to show off some of his new action figure sculpts, a unique blend of plastics designed to maximize both sculpt and articulation in his upcoming Indie Spotlight series, which will feature small press darlings Shadowhawk, Scud the Disposable Assassin, Katchoo from Strangers in Paradise, David Mack’s Kabuki, and my personal favorite, Sam Kieth’s The Maxx. Each figure will come with a Pink fairy or an Isz from The Maxx, and a Mr. Gone mail-away figure isn’t too far behind that.

We sat down and talked.


ToyCyte : So, for the readers who might not be familiar with your work, who are you and what do you do?

Geoff Beckett : I am Geoff Beckett, CEO of Shocker Toys LLP, makers of the Shockini, Indie Spotlight and other collectible toy lines.

ToyCyte : How did you enter the toy-making business? What inspired you to become a producer instead of just a consumer?

GB : I was always a collector of toys and had many as a kid. I [was playing] a few games of Pokemon with my younger brother and thought I could make a card game myself based on mini robots. I set out to do a trading card game – but the market was too saturated at the time. So, I took the card game characters and decided to make a toy line. I met a regular on Raving Toy Maniac (which was a big mistake) who said he was a sculptor. I gave him a few grand and the idea for our shoulder fighting robot card game characters. Needless to say, I learned as I promoted the toys that our money was taken and I was out of luck. This made some of the media and collectors not so happy with us to say the least.

So, I decided to go it myself. I picked up some clay and sculpted the robots into small 3 1/4″ figures and came up with the name ‘Shockinis’ (Shocker Toys + Minis = Shockinis). I made casts myself, showed them off, got feedback, made them better, and found a factory. ‘I’ became ‘we’ as Lance [Buttiglieri] joined the fold and we became ‘Shocker Toys LLP’ with our first real product : the Shockinis.

ToyCyte : How did you make the original casts? Was it a factory thing, or a kitchen-table thing?

GB : It was a backroom office thing…. I used Smooth-On, [a] great company in Jersey where I was at the time, and sat down and made a bunch of copies and hand painted the robots. During feedback, a collector said we should leave them blank, as we’d shown a blank one as well, which gave birth to the customizable Shockinis. Later, we sent hand casts to the factory and they made real casts through 3-D.

ToyCyte : I’ve customized a few myself, actually, and they really lend themselves to it, even with their small dimensions. So, how do you go from customizable mini-figures to Indie comics heroes?

GB : Well, as with toys I have always been a huge comic book fan too and used to draw and design them as a kid. So when I saw that something was missing between Marvel Legends and DC Universe figures. I thought up the original idea for Indie Spotlight.

ToyCyte : Now, there were some scuffles with ToyBiz over that. since you were both going for similar licenses and lines.

GB : Yes. as I had mentioned, we came up with the original idea and gathered the original licenses. We had the licenses first, as well as the idea, and our confidential e-mail was leaked to [ToyBiz] by an artist who owns a comic company we were pitching to. Next thing we knew, our licenses that were signed under non-exclusive [terms] were with that other toy company.

ToyCyte : So, since then, ToyBiz folded, turned into Marvel Toys, released two lines of their figures, and kinda disappeared. What’s happened with your line in that time?

GB : We had to just take a time out. I called the president of [ToyBiz] and told him my thoughts, as well as the press. We picked a new line up and started on sculpting. We had a few bad runs with that and finally got a new 3-D arm of Shocker Toys in Singapore and a new factory as well. We have, however, released two Indie Spotlight products during the down time – a Scud statue and mini Maxx vinyl.

ToyCyte : And these Indie guys are going to come out in December, yes? Because if they don’t, the nerds are going to find you and remove your organs, it would seem.

GB : That is correct – the line is set to ship in December. Diamond Comics will be stocking [local comic shops], Big Bad Toy Store and Toys ‘R’ Us. Oh, and yes, we have made sure this is it – we would like to keep our organs. We could always throw them our interns.

ToyCyte : Tell me – why do you think it is that there’s so much ire over the words ‘Shocker Toys’? The phrase has even been banned from some forums.

GB : Some people can’t handle that we don’t take to trolls abusing us. I can’t exactly say – but I can say it happened after the defunct Shoulder Action Figures were promoted. We should have kept that quiet, but you learn from your mistakes. We know that this line is great and so will the true toy fans. Some people just have a serious vendetta against us and have gone so far as to make fake websites to smear us, fake Wiki accounts to remove the mention [of Shocker Toys] there, and fake accounts on our forums to hack or vandalize it. It is all a bit childish if you ask me, and news sites who have been [negative towards] our name really need to set an example. If you let trolls run free, it will cause much chaos, and as journalists they should step above that low level.

ToyCyte : It’s rare to see a to company use the idea of ‘radical transparency’ as you have, where you reveal every step of the process. Do you think that this has caused impatience and contributed to the controversy? The average action figure collector isn’t usually privy to the process as they might be with the designer toy creators.

GB : Could be, but what we get back is less backlash when releasing the product, and we learn a great deal more. Without showing The Maxx early we wouldn’t have been able to correct his look, or fix the joint layout – which is something new on Indie Spotlight. I have also noticed that since we began [this] taboo tradition many other companies have followed the lead.

ToyCyte : The new sculpts that you’ve just revealed do seem like an improvement in the joints, absolutely!

GB : Yes we wanted to do a bit different from the ol’ ball and ball [laughs]. We tried to make a new set up, and it will only improve as the series continues.

ToyCyte : Are there any licenses that you’ve secured that you can tell us about, or would that only generate trouble so early on?

GB : We have picked up Sushi Pack, Madballs, My Pet Monster and a few others – we can’t say for what though. We have a new huge toy line planned for Toy Fair 2009.

ToyCyte : What’s your favorite toy? What do you actively collect?

GB : Marvel Legends and [Mighty] Muggs – but I will be collecting Indie Spotlight now… shameless plug.

ToyCyte : These are the toys that inspire you?

GB : All my life toys have inspired me. Some were corny, some were crappy, some were great, but all were toys!

ToyCyte : How do you feel about some day creating a line of original characters, or an ‘urban vinyl’ styled customizable form?

GB : I feel that day is around the corner. As a traditional collector, I have learned to like all toys, and urban vinyl has become part of my collections. Also, we did create the Electrobytes, which are an original robot toy line and were incorporated into the Shockinis.

ToyCyte : And Gwar? People call you ‘Gwarff’ for a reason!

GB : We would like to see it in our 5″ designer vinyl line. As far as ‘Gwarff’ – there is a different story behind that. A net troll (with a family no less) decided to start following us around and sling crap every chance he could. He was told to cease with his comments. So, to get around the ramifications of calling me by my name, he used Gwarff to tip-toe around us. Others who try to cut us off at the knees have also adopted this name. Some of these people are respected news site owners, and other toy industry people. It is a real shame to see this behavior in a collector world where toys should be the focus of talk, not slinging mud into a toy company’s eyes to ruin their image. That gentleman who first called us Gwarff, by the way, was sent free Shockinis for all of his kids before he went postal on us.


ToyCyte : Action figure collectors are a fickle people, I like to think that designer toy collectors are a far more mellow, balanced people.

GB : True, but this industry could accomplish much more by kicking out the trolls and giving a company a chance and proper feedback. If you have a toy company who can make a good toy line with their ear to your floor, you tell them what you would like to see. You don’t tell them they suck.

ToyCyte : How large is your company at this point?

GB : We have The main Shocker Toys people in Jersey, and a few in New York City were we would like to open our new offices. We also have our design team in Singapore. Our GFX designers are th3rdworld.com.

ToyCyte : If NOTHING else, you’ve managed to generate a huge amount of buzz around these Indie guys. No publicity is bad publicity. Everyone is going to want to see them firsthand. People are going to inevitably criticize, no matter what. Are you going to get in there and do the ol’ Fightin’ Geoff, or are you going to let it all slide?

GB : I agree with you there – the naysayers and non-supportive toy news sites caused all of the buzz. We are just going to do what we set out to do : put out great toys, whether it be Dethklok vinyl figures, Indie Spotlight, New Shockinis, other Spotlight categories or our new 5″ vinyl line.

I have been pretty quiet as of late because I knew what was happening on the inside. And once Indie Spotlight Series One hits, I don’t think there will be any need to fight, as the fans will back up how great they are. For some of these haters, it is a sickness and I would say to them “get help”, because the figures have now been seen and they are coming out regardless of what they say. They alone cannot stop us no matter how sneaky they try to be. We will make great toys and we will make new innovative breakthroughs for the industry because it is the industry I have come to love.

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This post was written by:

Collin David - who has written 373 posts on ToyCyte: Toy Culture Collected.

Collin has a deep affection for all things toyetic, animated and tentacled. He draws and paints a lot, and doesn't get to sleep until very late.

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14 Comments For This Post

  1. Rocket Racoon2 Says:

    /toy/ says hello geoff

    http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shockertoyssuck2pd2.jpg

  2. Mike Says:

    Well Rocket Racoon2 that was a great image lifted from the fwoosh website. You couldn’t even insult him on your own, @$$.

  3. Collin David Says:

    AND IT BEGINS!

  4. Jeremy Brautman Says:

    I want to know who has the time to make and support fake/angry/attack websites.

  5. Mike Says:

    There is a guy SWH from the Fwoosh forums who has been following Shocker Toys around he had a site called suckertoys.com which was shut down by the domain owners it mirrored the Shocker Toys site but was aimed at making them look like crap. There is also a blog called Shocker Toys worst toy company ever started by a guy named Reideen1313 to make them look bad but that site seems to be outdated. And I did notice they all call him GWARFF to avoid legal troubles how cowardly. I was on their forums once after they had open registration and someone signed up and posted in like 75 topics (must have took them all night) and add the commment “Lies, Lies, Lies”. When you work IT you can just sit around and you are on the web already so it is easy to just post threats and use slander against a company all day long. If the effort of these haters was put into constructive crits then we might see toys that look and perform off the chain. It is sad that a company has to sift through all the hate posts to find out feedback. I had to turn to their site because the topic at Fwoosh that I posted feedback in was locked due to siteowner. I agree with Freedom of Speech but Freedom to Bash should be watched over on these websites. Ruining someones company should not be a daily task. If we don’t punish the trolls how will they ever learn?

    *Can’t we all just Collect together?*

  6. Jason Babler Says:

    Some dude in the San Jose area, according to his IP. Seriously, this amount of energy is typically reserved for weirdos enraged over economics, religion or politics.

    But toys? Seriously, wackos like that are just very, very lonely, pitiful people, you can’t reason with them, and the only thing to do is ignore them.

  7. Mike Says:

    I agree with you Jason 100%. And I have seen this company try and ignore the trolls only to be beat up even more while they sit back and keep quite. Some of us have tried to go to bat for them only to be hushed by forum owners and site Mods. I am buying the toys and I am happy with the way they came out. Was I bit put-off in the start of this line? Yes but did I try to stamp them into the ground, no I gave my feedback with other level headed collectors and poof they listened.

  8. Collin David Says:

    Geoff’s most recent Facebook update indicated that the Indie Spotlight stuff has arrived and is being packed up for customers. I’m personally VERY excited for Mr. Gone and an ARMY of Isz.

    Geoff – any plans to release a big of Isz / Pink Fairies as McFarlane did back in the old days? I’d probably buy a TON.

  9. Mike Says:

    Is that where that Maxx picture is from? Is there more finished figures like that to see? And those are definite finished figures from what i can see.

  10. Shannon Says:

    Seems Shocker Toys is up to their old shenanigans…

    http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=156451&page=3200

  11. domu Says:

    From the link in the previous post and this thread on TNI
    http://forums.toynewsi.com/index.php?showtopic=2056074&st=25&start=25
    it seems that Indie Spotlight Series 1 will not be available for purchase in December.

    Can Shocker Toys clarify this? There seems to be a lot of hair splitting over the meaning of “ships in December.” I think most everyone took that as being able to walk into a store sometime in December and buy the figures. Are people wrong to assume this?

    In the CBR thread, Shocker Toys specifically says that they will be shipping to Diamond in December (post #47927). That would mean it would be highly unlikely that anyone would see these in a store before the new year, given standard distribution times. In the same thread, Shocker Toys states, “we will show everyone what we have as far as toys go when they come out these next few months.” That was posted yesterday, November 25. That doesn’t sound like a December release to me either.

    Shocker Toys seems fairly certain in this interview from last week that these would be out in December. Did something change over the weekend that would cause another delay?

    BTW, since you’re practicing “radical transparency” and all, what caused the delays from the earlier July/August/September/October release dates? And/or why were release dates announced if the product wasn’t ready?

    Thanks!

  12. domu Says:

    So, I guess no answers to any of my questions?

    Collin David, you posted on November 22nd, “Geoff’s most recent Facebook update indicated that the Indie Spotlight stuff has arrived and is being packed up for customers.” That has proven to be completely untrue. How about another interview asking about things like Geoff stating the figures would absolutely come out in December and that they had actually arrived in November? I mean, you were straight up lied to…

  13. Collin Says:

    I’d like to reiterate that this was NOT an investigative report – it was an interview, presumably to set things straight and get things on record.

    What Geoff stated is what he stated – no words added or omitted. If you choose to use this as evidence of something, you’re absolutely free to! We were all of sound mind when this was created.

    If you have questions for Shocker, they have contact info on their website. Good luck!

  14. domu Says:

    Not accusing you of anything. But if someone sat across from me and unabashedly lied to my face like that, I’d be a bit offended. It’s a bit insulting to everyone’s intelligence that Geoff would think that you and your readers wouldn’t catch on.

    Nice job of letting him hang himself with his own words.